Learner Information

It can be a bit daunting when you buy your first scooter. There are however a couple of golden rules...

Take your time, and keep an open mind. Put the leg work in by sitting on a few different scooters. Most people have a pre conceived idea of what they want, but this often changes if they try out all the options. And remember, whilst a 125 will usually be an adequate commuter, if you live in the Eastern suburbs, the hills will mean you may need a bit more power than you thought - A 150 or 200cc scooter may be the go.

Be careful whose advice you take. Online forums in our experience do have some value, but as with everything on the internet, it’s often a case of "have a good experience, tell your mate, have a bad one and tell the world". If in doubt, buy from a reputable dealer providing some form of warranty. If buying privately, we can provide a pre-purchase inspection.

All scooters are not created equal. Beware the cheap and cheerful, if it seems to be too good to be true it probaly is. Just because it looks the same as a more expensive, quality brand, doesn't mean it is. There have been a number of cheap Chinese brands that have come and gone in recent years, leaving owners with no access to spare parts ,and worthless warranties. We only deal with established brands, and can offer solid ongoing support. Reliability is everything - buy the best you can afford, it will always save you money in the long run.

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FAQs

Q. New or used?

A. The single most common thing we hear when talking to a prospective new rider is “ I’m looking for a scooter, I don’t want to spend too much as I only want it to get me to work and back....”. As with most things in life, you can’t have it all. Less money means compromises are made, usually meaning a second hand scooter over a new one. As a rule, the less money paid upfont, the more money will be spent over the course of ownership. The cheaper the scooter is, the more likely that the mechanical condition, km travelled or simply cosmetic presentation are going to be less appealing. We are happy to sell used bikes with cosmetic damage, but will not sell bikes we consider to be unsafe or likely to deteriorate rapidly soon after you hand over your hard earned cash. Being realistic about your budget is therefore essential. So, New versus used;

A major advantage of buying new is a long, comprehensive warranty. Also, everything’s new (tyres, battery etc.), meaning that you’re not buying half worn parts that will need replacing soon. Parts should be easily available (although many Chinese brands have a poor record of parts availability - it's worth checking that the importer is established, and able to provide good after sales support). The disadvantages include a steeper depreciation curve, and higher initial cost. That said, the high Australian dollar means that the value for money on new scooters at the moment is very, very good. We get a lot of people coming in expecting to get a second hand scooter for a budget of around $2500, and being pleasantly surprised to be riding away on a new one for the same money.

Advantages in buying used can include lower initial cost, and a slower rate of depreciation. Disadvantages are the potential for increased costs for replacement parts, and limited warranty. In short, if you have the money, buy new. If on a limited budget, the decision has probably been made for you already – but don’t discount financing part of the purchase as it can save you money in the long run.

I used to own an old 95 model ute. Every week there was something needing replacing or fixing. I financed a new ute instead, and all it’s cost me so far is regular servicing and a new set of tyres. Certainly something to think about when the gap between new and used may only cost you $30 a week.  At the end of the day, you get what you pay for, and you should expect cheaper options to cost more in the long run.

 

Q. I've seen a great deal on a new scooter or motorcycle, but I haven't heard of the brand.  How do I know if it's reliable?

A. Well known brands like Yamaha are famous for reliability and build quality, but of course there are plenty of lesser-known brands, many of which also build great motorcycles and scooters.  If you haven't heard of a particular brand, we strongly recommend you do lots of research.  Particularly at the cheaper end of the market there are a few poor quality Chinese makes (some with European sounding names) where we would urge caution.

If you see an offer of a long warranty, look closely at the small print.  Check what the warranty covers and what your responsibilities are.  Some have so many conditions and exemptions the warranty may not be worth very much.

It's worth talking about resale value here too. Better known brands will have a higher resale value than the lesser known brands. If you are buying a bike or scooter to keep forever, this isn't too much of a concern. However, if you know you'll be selling the bike in the near future - say when you've finished your P's - then resale becomes very important. Established brands have residual value and can usually be more easily sold when you're ready.

As a general rule, look for a brand that has an established dealer network across Australia.  It's a good sign if a plenty of reputable dealers are stocking the product.

 

Q. How much should I spend on gear?

A. We can kit you out with a helmet, jacket and gloves from around $300. Of Course, the sky’s the limit, but you don’t need to spend thousands for good protection.  We are always doing deals with the suppliers, and know what our customers need. Daryl (one of the owners) has had extensive experience as a rep for a variety of motorcycle clothing manufacturers, so will make sure you are fitted properly. This is absolutely vital if the gear is to perform correctly.

 

Q. Bike or scooter?

A. Decide what you want it to do, and perhaps more importantly, what it will actually do. If you live in Bondi, and want to get to work in the city and to the beach on the weekend, buy a scooter. If it’s a weekend thing, and you see yourself getting out of town now and again, it’s probably going to be a bike. If it’s simply transport, a scooter has some clear advantages such as low purchase and running costs. Provided you’re not doing prolonged freeway work, a Kymco or equivalent quality 125cc or above will get you over the harbour Bridge no problem (The most commonly asked question we hear!).  If you won’t be carrying shopping regularly, and intend to do a bit of distance, a 250cc or bigger bike will fit the bill.

 

Q. How do I get started?

A. The RTA is the licencing authority in NSW, so that’s your first port of call. Click here for the RTA website. There’s often a waiting list to get onto the course, so this is time you can use visiting the bike and scooter shops to narrow down your choice of purchase. It's worth remembering that all scooters are not equal. To the novice rider, it's easy to get the impression that one brand is much the same as the next. Whilst the looks may be similar, reliabilty and build quality can vary enormously. At the top of this page, I mentioned that many customers say to us; "I just need it to get me to work and back, so don't want to spend too much". This does occasionally result in the purchase of a scooter costing a few hundred dollars less than a better quality one. After said scooter breaks down on the way to an important meeting, or on the way home after a hard day, this saving makes less sense. In short, buy the best quality scooter you can afford from the best established (workshop supported) shop you can find.

 

Finally, don’t be afraid to come in and ask us questions. For the inexperienced, choosing a bike or scooter can be a challenge, and you need all the help you can get. We’ll answer your questions, and point you in the right direction.